Curse

Yukito Kunisaki · Mar 15, 2006, 06:53 AM // 06:53

Me/N

I love this combo, so resilient and so vicious, the pre-order idea: Defiler.

Came up with some. Now the counters to them are quite simple but I came up with these formulas for a good anti-class split

4 anti-magic
2 energy support
2 anti-warrior/ranger

possible stats?

16 Domination
9 Inspiration
8 Fast Casting
8 curses

OR

12-14 Domination [is that sac of hp worth it?]
10 Inspiration
8 Fast Casting
10 Curses

First ideal: Punisher build [countered by anti-hex]

Empathy
Backfire
Energy Burn
Energy Surge
Drain Enchantment
Power Drain
Insidious Parasite
Plague Touch / Res Signet [depends on how skilled your monk is]

Idea: if you can stop your enemy's ability to remove hexes, then this build will REALLY decimate your foes. If they're not going to cast anything or use any enchantment, some may suspect that Drain Enchant and Power Drain become pointless. This is moot because if your foes aren't using any spells or any enchantments at all, then obviously your team is MORE buffed up by far... [assuming your team wants to be brainy buffed-up] Technically, if they swing, they eat double dmg from both Empathy and Parasite, and if they cast, Burn/Surge them using Power Drain in between for pain...

2nd ideal: AoE Blaster

Arcane Echo
Energy Burn
Energy Surge {E}
Power Drain
Drain Enchantment
Enfeebling Blood
Shadow of Fear
Plague Touch / Res Sig / Ether Feast [if you're monkless or monk is just not good enough for ya]

If you're confident in your monk, then any melee types will be stuck doing little to no damage due to Enfeebling Fear combo of hexes. 2 or more afflicted is REALLY useful for keeping your guild lord / monk / etc. alive. Drain Enchantment and Power Drain to feed your 3x whammy: Arcane Echo, E. Burn + Surge. Done properly, you can hack off more than 500 hp in total from the entire enemy team. if they spread out, it doesn't matter since their monk will obviously be forced to run...

Some obvious weaknesses rely in simultaneous removal of hexes and conditions. The anti-enchant and energy+hp striking this build can enduce is quite fierce. Armor ignoring AoE blasts of dewm...

Now if these ideas aren't as efficient as possible. [hey, I'm more warrior than caster... give me a hand ^_^]

I'm definitely not expecting any super killer moves in these builds. Mesmer's true job isn't to deal that much damage anyway.

My original mesmer idea was to drain as much energy from all the casters from the enemy team and use said energy to disable the non-casters, but since energy denial has been given the nerf mallet, I've been trying to come up with other ways to do things.

I don't like focusing, it leaves too much to deal with in terms of weakness. Go anti-caster, a warrior will rip you up, go anti-warrior, most of the world's teams are casters anyway, dur...

So my relevence is pretty much this for any nice improvements...

4 anti-magic
2 energy managers
2 anti-warrior
now for safety, one of the anti-magic skills maybe traded in for a res sig, but being a mesmer primary, I HIGHLY doubt I'll be given a second to even attempt to use it so using something like Plague Touch or anti-magic sounds more reasonable...

Ideas? Flames? etc.?

Yukito Kunisaki · Mar 16, 2006, 07:10 AM // 07:10

Ah, an idea came to mind whilst reading on a few other trix here and there...

10+1+1 Domination
7+1 Fast Casting
9+1 Inspiration
10 Curses

[12/10/10/8]

5 anti-caster, and 3 anti-warrior

Energy Burn
Energy Surge {E} OR Panic {E}
Mind Wrack
Energy Tap
Spirit of Failure
Price of Failure
Enfeeble
Plague Touch

Since warriors usually like dumping conditions at point - blank, then we can let them eat it back. ^_^ With both 'of failure' hexes on them, landing hits will be quite punishing for them and the more warriors/rangers you get with SoF, the more energy you'll have!

Use that energy to feed the Burn/Surge/Wrack whammy. Will it roast your foes? Depends really, you might need Energy Tap in there and if you're feeling REALLY nuts, you can use Ether Lord to prevent regen. [DON'T USE IT UNLESS YOU HAVE ONLY 5E. LEFT, SHEESH]. At that point they'll be floating VERY close to 0 e. if done properly and you can Mind Wrack them again! Panic + Ether Lord = no regen for energy... That means their off-monk will have to remove 2 hexes in order to get anywhere, and you're sucking up energy from both their caster AND their fighters...

Win-win...

Lady Callingwell · Mar 16, 2006, 08:37 AM // 08:37

Before I start thinking of a TA (presuming u mean TA here) build, I allready have res signet and distortion on my bar. These two skills are really manadatory. Also for energy management 99% of ym builds have power drain around as it's just to good to let it pass. Surging is really worthless imho (experience using it and suffering it). For warrior hate shadow of fear is good, but you wont need it on more than one char, so dependant on whether or not you have another necro around or not you can take it. Another key skill in most builds is diversion, the increased skill recharge is really the most interesting asset of this skill.

Yukito Kunisaki · Mar 16, 2006, 08:29 PM // 20:29

hm, diversion...

idea...

Arcane Echo
Diversion
Power Block {e}
Power Leak
Power Drain
Drain Enchantment
Shadow of Fear
Plague Touch

Well, no loss of hp to Enfeebling Blood, which is good since a prioritized team will kill mesmers first... Just got to keep those warriors off me with monk help. Arcane Echoed diversion sounds evil and then POwer Block to shut out 2 characters in tow...